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Auto stop and start

Started by: PeterP (11319)

My car has a automatic gearbox with auto stop and start The gear shift is
P -park
R-reverse
N -neutral
D-drive
If I stop at a junction I can either put my foot on the brake and then the engine switches OFF on stop/start but obviously the brake lights are light up and may dazzle the driver behind or I can put the shift into park and again the stop and start works but when I go to move the gear shift has to go through reverse gear then neutral then into drive and the driver behind will see the reverse lights come on for a second. If I put the car in neutral and put the hand brake on the stop and start will not work and the engine will be on tick over. I think this a bad design Probably this is why we see so many cars brake lights when we are parked behind them

Started: 11th Jan 2023 at 18:22
Last edited by PeterP: 12th Jan 2023 at 19:48:24

Posted by: tonker (27936) 

Switch the 'auto stop-start ' OFF. They're a pain in the arse!
I never use a hand-brake, automatic or manual.
When I drive an automatic, it's left foot braking. When stopped, temporarily, I select neutral and use the foot-brake. When parked up, I select 'P' for 'park'.

With a manual, I leave it in gear. 1st or reverse.

Replied: 11th Jan 2023 at 21:16

Posted by: sonlyme (3353)

Mine is a stop start and i always turn it off when i start the engine.

Replied: 11th Jan 2023 at 21:38

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

I tend to be a little concerned regarding hill stars in my automatic.

I know not why, as there has never been any difficulty with them.

I guess it is just a hangover from non automatic, where releasing brake at just right bite point of declutch is necessary.

Replied: 12th Jan 2023 at 20:01

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Ena most automatics now are fitted with hill start which holds the car for 2 to 3 seconds which is ample time to get onto the accelerator

Replied: 12th Jan 2023 at 22:18

Posted by: tonker (27936) 

Ena said, thoughtfully, "I guess it is just a hangover from non automatic, where releasing brake at just right bite point of declutch is necessary."

Which is both wrong and unproductive.
You should use left-foot braking when driving an automatic and you don't 'de-clutch' when you're pulling away, you 'engage' clutch.

As in, "Don't forget to engage gear before dropping the clutch on your gob" !

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 17:18

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Tonker like most automatic drivers your left foot is redundant. You should just use your right foot for accelerator and your brake. Don't know why you would use your left foot you either are using the accelerator or the brake not both at once

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 17:41

Posted by: tonker (27936) 

I can't understand anybody not using their left foot for btaking. It's ridiculous!

Replied: 13th Jan 2023 at 18:22

Posted by: broady (inactive)

Automatic cars are the norm over here and, after reading this topic, I took notice yesterday and I would say around 90% had brake lights on at traffic lights.

Replied: 14th Jan 2023 at 17:09

Posted by: broady (inactive)

Double post.

Replied: 14th Jan 2023 at 17:09
Last edited by broady: 14th Jan 2023 at 17:10:28

Posted by: retep1949 (1193)

Only driven an automatic a couple of times,both in the US and the bloke at the hire firm told me to only use my right foot for acceleration and braking,didn’t have any problem.

Replied: 16th Jan 2023 at 17:31

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Retep Tonker has high powered cars and he needs his left foot hovering over the brake in case he needs to brake sudden Every one else just uses their right foot, My last two cars had a foot rest for my left foot to help with relaxing driving

Replied: 16th Jan 2023 at 17:44

Posted by: broady (inactive)

I only use my right foot.

Replied: 16th Jan 2023 at 18:39

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

If I have to venture out today in the car I will try the Slippy mode to see if It gives better traction on the snow. I normally just turn the engine on which is Normal mode by default or put it in Eco mode. the other two modes are Sport if you are a bit of a boy racer and Trail mode I presume if you want to go off road(no chance) or need to go up a farm track. One feature I will never use is you can put the car gears into Manual and there are paddles on the steering wheel to change up/down gears

Replied: 18th Jan 2023 at 08:36
Last edited by PeterP: 18th Jan 2023 at 18:05:53

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

cue 'The Beamer dealer'!

Replied: 20th Jan 2023 at 00:35

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Ena who's the Beamer dealer?

Replied: 20th Jan 2023 at 06:47

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

Replied: 20th Jan 2023 at 18:01

Posted by: bentlegs (5310)

Ena malcup, loved that phone call to the BM W dealer, obvious it was a joke like the chap who asks do you deliver,

Replied: 6th Apr 2023 at 09:47

Posted by: bentlegs (5310)

My wife went out to buy a car the salesman gave her the key, she tried and tried to start it thevthe sales man it won't start until you depress the clutch it was a vaùxhall viva . Never heard of this before

Replied: 13th Apr 2023 at 15:58

Posted by: PeterP (11319)

Bentlegs most modern cars will not start unless you push the clutch pedal down. My automatic will not start until the brake pedal is pressed down 1st. It was intended to stop the car lurching forward and is a safety feature

Replied: 13th Apr 2023 at 17:40
Last edited by PeterP: 13th Apr 2023 at 17:55:45

Posted by: Platty (2107)

Yes, PeterP, must be a few years since bentlegs wife bought a car. But I was told depressing the clutch on start up is to get the lubricants moving. Done it for years now.

Replied: 14th Apr 2023 at 18:39

Posted by: tonker (27936) 

" I was told depressing the clutch on start up is to get the lubricants moving"

No harm in believing it, but it's wrong information!

Replied: 14th Apr 2023 at 20:50

 

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